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FreakMaster
4/23/2017 7:31:59 AM


Status: Wal Mart Greeter
An Introduction

Hello everyone! I am FreakMaster, I will be operating FreakingNews in the future taking over from NewsMaster.

First, we should all give Newsy a great big THANKS. He has worked on FN tirelessly for over a decade and put his time, resources, and mind into everything that has made the site such a fun place over all these years. THANK YOU Newsy!

Second, I would like to ask you some questions that will help the site in terms of operations and functionality, and perhaps make a few changes that will make the site into a place that will attract new members and hopefully increase participation and growth.

The mission behind FreakingNews was always to create a community of members that could create images (funny, serious, artistic) driven by the news. In the past years we have seen amazing images created, some have become so viral as to make social impacts. Other images could be deemed works of art, worthy of hanging up in a Museum. Either way, the news and current events were to be the catalyst to drive the creative process here.

Given that, I would appreciate your open comments in the thread. What things would you like to see changed? What areas do you feel the site should pay attention to? General comments please.

Finally, I am putting up a poll regarding the issue of Credits and the process for "wins" here at FN. As far as the financial aspect it isn't an issue, but the operational aspect of processing and maintaining this area of the site can become a bit of a hindrance.

So, please take the poll, and comment below.

As far as FreakMaster goes, I would like you to know I call you all my friends, and promise to try my best to make the site as entertaining, functional, and friendly as it has been during NewsMaster's reign.

Thanks!





This comment was edited by a moderator at 4/23/2017 8:11:53 AM.

POLL: When it comes to CREDITS...

40% 4 votes4 votes I feel Credits are a token of appreciation and MUST continue.
0% 0 votes0 votes Ending the Credits for wins process would not impact my participation.
10% 1 votes1 votes I count on Credits to supplement my income.
50% 5 votes5 votes The Trophy's are enough recognition for winning.

10 people have voted.
Poll has ended on 4/25/2017 7:27:31 AM
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PShaveyouseenthis
Independents
4/23/2017 10:00:43 PM


Status: Jimbo Rocks
Thanks for taking the baton FreakMaster. Appreciated. I found the voting and Karma too much to get my head round. I am happy to just enter when I can and hope for the best in such a talented pool of Choppers.

I've browsed through some of the past few years and there have been peaks of strong activity from more members that I don't see participate in recent years. Is there any reason other than life gets in the way. I've come and gone because of that issue.

I like long time windows to produce the entry due to lifestyle challenges. I'm not sure how the process of choosing competition themes work. Sometimes someone might suggest something they have already created a chop for in that process.

Perhaps the option to choose a new subject outside of the cyclical ones could be open to more members. Not sure the fairest way to go about that with so many members.

Maybe a suggestion thread and put to a members vote which one to choose. Then those ideas not chosen can still be reentered to the following round of subject selection.

I apologise if all this is already in place. Only more recently have I wondered around the site.

Best wishes to you and best of luck.



It's my only digital outlet and with my lifestyle it means everything.
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“Painting is easy when you don’t know how, but very difficult when you do” Edgar Degas

Hitspinner
Independents
4/24/2017 2:27:23 AM


Status: Commander in Chief
A few points in favor of the credits. The better the artists the more interesting and inspiring the art. Most of that high quality art comes from artists in the business or produce in a professional capacity. Professional artists get paid. Amateurs don't.
So in actuality, any artists that wins a cup and cash credit for a produced artwork; that person is technically a professional. That is a really cool bonus to chopping here. Novices that would barely have little or no chance of attaining professional status can do it here if they learn and get good at the craft. So money is a motivation in that respect. I doubt that many have thought it through to that conclusion but ... that is the nuts and bolts of it. FN produces PROFESSIONAL choppers. Nobody gets that status elsewhere to my knowledge.
Now there are a few professional artists here that, like everybody else, chops for the fun of it. The credits are a cherry on top. It's sort of a respectful wink and I know is greatly appreciated by other pros whom I have spoken with.
I am sure if it were a question of survival for the site whether to pay or not pay out credits, probably everybody would go along with what is best for the group/site.
I personally do rely on the credits as supplemental income at times. More than once it has saved our A55 and bought food and gas. That happens when you are 100% disabled from performing your trades and have no income other than disability. Some it helps a lot and some are in no need of supplemental income. If the credits dried up I would be forced to find some income elsewhere. I would still chop but not nearly as much. But that is my own situation and not to be imposed on others.

As far as changes to the site: Vlad has done an amazing job. But I don't see any marketing programs designed to drive bodies into the shop. Word of mouth has slowed to a stop. Marketing is a separate function within the site. Somebody(s) has to wear that hat and generate interest in what we do. Vlad is just too busy. I'd have jumped in a long time ago but I have not a clue. The new media marketing is alien to me. I just don't understand Ad Sense and Google metrix and all that gibberish.

Okay, I will address the elephant in the room. Low votes; people that do that kill the site by running off the really good artists that know better. Life does sometimes get in the way, I agree with that, but there isn't any good reason to motivate a person to walk away to handle life. Those low votes cause damage no matter how much we turn a blind eye and say nothing. So my suggestion is publish a brief, voter guidelines refresher at the bottom of each contest listing. It may not do a darn bit of good but at least shows management's concerns. It also gives Admins high ground when they have to make contact with habitual abusers.
I'll likely think of some other minor stuff but honestly, even though FN has some chips in her paint, it still rocks just the way it is.
Cheers
Tim
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Hitspinner the Wise

Hitspinner
Independents
4/24/2017 2:34:28 AM


Status: Commander in Chief
PS. Welcome and thanks who ever you are You have our support.
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SteveGSQ
Democrats
4/25/2017 9:05:10 PM


Status: Director of the FBI
Howdy, FreakMaster! Thanks for taking over the nut house!

Low votes are a bummer to the site, but most of the time when I have noticed it, the low voters have such little karma that I'm not sure how much damage they actually do. If it is a serious problem then maybe we need to implement something from some Olympic events by throwing out the lowest and highest vote for each entry. That could help eliminate those that help each other with high votes and tank their votes on other entries. I'm sure for those behind the scenes there is a pattern that can be seen. Years ago I was a juror and moderator for years on another site that held similar contests and when it was discovered that people were helping other members by voting for them they were banned from the site (as well as their IP address).

As for contests, I like seeing contests with different time limits. Some having 48 hours (or less) to enter and then our regular length ones as well as the longer ones for News in Pictures for the Week.

As for the credits, they are a nice incentive. I just don't have a lot of time to enter often enough to enjoy them myself. I do take pleasure in voting as fair as I can to help those that obviously put in their time to create a high quality chop. Quality over quantity ever time.

And a big thanks to Newsy for everything. Vlad did an awesome job. Cheers!
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Well there's something you don't see everyday.

deaddog
Democrats
4/29/2017 12:34:35 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Welcome aboard Freaky, and thanks for taking over babysitting us!

What tends to turn me off is rehashing the same old contest over and over, need more variety. More source photo contests is what peaks my interest. As far as credits, I myself dig the occasional cash out bonus. They are a nice treat/reward now and then.
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UncleChamp
Independents
4/29/2017 1:06:43 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Thanks FreakMaster, for keeping FreakingNews going. And thanks to NewsMaster for the years of dedication, blood sweat and tears he has put in to FN.
Running contests 3-5 times a week would be awesome! The ones with a source to work with was a favorite, also would be nice to bring back the apprentice contest that has been sorely missed by some. The poll for credits went about 50-50, maybe have some with credits and some without.
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MsgtBob
Republicans
4/29/2017 7:11:59 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Personally I don't see any low voting. Just that those that enter do not vote. Of those that do vote, I (personal opinion only) think they are very lenient here.

I think the mainstay of the site is the news contest, but I think that the ones to manipulate a given picture are the most enjoyable.

If you can afford to do so, I say keep awarding money (the only other site that I know that does that, is nowhere near as good as this place).
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Aargh!

PSMandrake
Independents
4/30/2017 6:21:09 AM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/23/2017 7:31:59 AM, FreakMaster said:
Hello everyone! I am FreakMaster, I will be operating FreakingNews in the future taking over from NewsMaster.

First, we should all give Newsy a great big THANKS. He has worked on FN tirelessly for over a decade and put his time, resources, and mind into everything that has made the site such a fun place over all these years. THANK YOU Newsy!

Second, I would like to ask you some questions that will help the site in terms of operations and functionality, and perhaps make a few changes that will make the site into a place that will attract new members and hopefully increase participation and growth.

The mission behind FreakingNews was always to create a community of members that could create images (funny, serious, artistic) driven by the news. In the past years we have seen amazing images created, some have become so viral as to make social impacts. Other images could be deemed works of art, worthy of hanging up in a Museum. Either way, the news and current events were to be the catalyst to drive the creative process here.

Given that, I would appreciate your open comments in the thread. What things would you like to see changed? What areas do you feel the site should pay attention to? General comments please.

Finally, I am putting up a poll regarding the issue of Credits and the process for "wins" here at FN. As far as the financial aspect it isn't an issue, but the operational aspect of processing and maintaining this area of the site can become a bit of a hindrance.

So, please take the poll, and comment below.

As far as FreakMaster goes, I would like you to know I call you all my friends, and promise to try my best to make the site as entertaining, functional, and friendly as it has been during NewsMaster's reign.

Thanks!






Hi Freak Master. "Meanwhile, thank you very much for all that you do for FN."
I would have some advice:
1) I would like an innovative graphic design, such as "http://artstation.com/ among my favorites"

2) The ability to develop cotest for company companies ..
3) Improved PHP CODE AND JavaScript integration.
4) Working daily on the "SEO"
5) Develop a mobile version site application for daily contests updates ...
For any advice I am at your disposal.
Sorry for my bad English, I hope I have explained it to you well.
Yours sincerely.
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Hackofalltrades
Democrats
4/30/2017 12:18:58 PM


Status: Flori-duh Voter
One of the things I noticed, coming from Worth 1000 is that there are very few people that actively vote in contests. even when they have entered the contest themselves! Case in point, the "last" freaking news contest when the site was going to close. There were 91 entries, and only 19 voters!

It used to be mandatory on Worth, if you had an entry, to vote on your own contest. If you didn't, you'd face demotion in Karma. Not sure if the same is true here.

Also, one of the things they did at Worth before the end was to have a popup voting guide as a rollover on the voting system. If you hovered over a star before clicking, it would show you what a 5 represented, and made sure you were giving a fair score. Obviously people will abuse that, but there's really no pleasing some people.

Regarding credits, I like it. It's a nice little reward. And while I enter so infrequently as to never get rich off of it.. it's still nice to get a few bucks here and there.

Skill-set thresholds may be something to consider. That's another thing Worth did that I liked. it helps keep wildly differently skilled artists in different areas while they improve. So you're able to build up your skills with your peers.

There's nothing so disappointing as a contest vote where there are entries that are obvious discrepancies in skill. 10+ home runs on one end... And in the same contest.... someone who's using MS paint circa 1995 on a heavily jpeg compressed image. They slap together two wildly dissimilar images. The edges are jagged and there are yellow text speech bubbles all over it!

To me, unless the contest was specifically calling for something to be ironically poorly done... the previously mentioned image should be voted a 1., More realistically said entry should be disqualified for lack of minimum quality standards.

Also, more contests active at the same time. If something news related isn't your cup of tea, have something pop culture related, or Star Wars or Aliens, or chop this source image all going at the same time. Give a variety of subjects so that days don't go by with people not entering because there's nothing that interests them on the site.

Jurors.

The one thing that I liked that sort of balanced out voting, especially if there were voting trolls with Karma.... were jurors who were excellent choppers themselves giving weighted votes at the end. This really helped keep things fair and would ultimately thwart any outright unfair voting.

Just a few thoughts.

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Start at the beginning….. when you get to the end…. STOP!

Armatien
Democrats
5/3/2017 8:12:59 AM


Status: Governor
Didn't had time to vote but credits are indeed a nice motivation to participate for non experienced choppers it can take hours and hours to produce something well, i think too that credits contribute to the quality of the site.

For the rewards it would be really nice to have a TOP 5 in place of a TOP 4, very often the fith is a very good quality chop and got nothing

It could be:
1 5$
2 4$
3 3$
4 2$
5 1$

For voting system, maybe people who participate the contest and vote regurlarly could get some Karma boost faster than people who only vote and not participate. If i remenber well it is pretty hard to get a decent Karma and it takes a long time ! If people got such a little Karma what would they vote ?

Like Hackofalltrades said, boost karma with Numbers of trophy ? To be judge by experienced choppers ! You already need a trophy to get a decent karma in the current system maybe push the system with more trophy needed.

And welcome aboard FreakMaster and thank you to continue this wonderfull site !!!


[Edited by User on 5/3/2017 8:33:07 AM]
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Hitspinner
Independents
5/5/2017 10:34:38 PM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 4/30/2017 12:18:58 PM, Hackofalltrades said:
One of the things I noticed, coming from Worth 1000 is that there are very few people that actively vote in contests. even when they have entered the contest themselves! Case in point, the "last" freaking news contest when the site was going to close. There were 91 entries, and only 19 voters!

It used to be mandatory on Worth, if you had an entry, to vote on your own contest. If you didn't, you'd face demotion in Karma. Not sure if the same is true here.

Also, one of the things they did at Worth before the end was to have a popup voting guide as a rollover on the voting system. If you hovered over a star before clicking, it would show you what a 5 represented, and made sure you were giving a fair score. Obviously people will abuse that, but there's really no pleasing some people.

Regarding credits, I like it. It's a nice little reward. And while I enter so infrequently as to never get rich off of it.. it's still nice to get a few bucks here and there.

Skill-set thresholds may be something to consider. That's another thing Worth did that I liked. it helps keep wildly differently skilled artists in different areas while they improve. So you're able to build up your skills with your peers.

There's nothing so disappointing as a contest vote where there are entries that are obvious discrepancies in skill. 10+ home runs on one end... And in the same contest.... someone who's using MS paint circa 1995 on a heavily jpeg compressed image. They slap together two wildly dissimilar images. The edges are jagged and there are yellow text speech bubbles all over it!

To me, unless the contest was specifically calling for something to be ironically poorly done... the previously mentioned image should be voted a 1., More realistically said entry should be disqualified for lack of minimum quality standards.

Also, more contests active at the same time. If something news related isn't your cup of tea, have something pop culture related, or Star Wars or Aliens, or chop this source image all going at the same time. Give a variety of subjects so that days don't go by with people not entering because there's nothing that interests them on the site.

Jurors.

The one thing that I liked that sort of balanced out voting, especially if there were voting trolls with Karma.... were jurors who were excellent choppers themselves giving weighted votes at the end. This really helped keep things fair and would ultimately thwart any outright unfair voting.

Just a few thoughts.




Yes, what HOAT said. Splendid

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Hitspinner the Wise

Hitspinner
Independents
5/5/2017 10:36:46 PM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 5/3/2017 8:12:59 AM, Armatien said:
Didn't had time to vote but credits are indeed a nice motivation to participate for non experienced choppers it can take hours and hours to produce something well, i think too that credits contribute to the quality of the site.

For the rewards it would be really nice to have a TOP 5 in place of a TOP 4, very often the fith is a very good quality chop and got nothing

It could be:
1 5$
2 4$
3 3$
4 2$
5 1$

For voting system, maybe people who participate the contest and vote regurlarly could get some Karma boost faster than people who only vote and not participate. If i remenber well it is pretty hard to get a decent Karma and it takes a long time ! If people got such a little Karma what would they vote ?

Like Hackofalltrades said, boost karma with Numbers of trophy ? To be judge by experienced choppers ! You already need a trophy to get a decent karma in the current system maybe push the system with more trophy needed.

And welcome aboard FreakMaster and thank you to continue this wonderfull site !!!


[Edited by User on 5/3/2017 8:33:07 AM]



Also splendid suggestions. I agree


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Hitspinner the Wise

Hitspinner
Independents
5/5/2017 10:53:14 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
Did I say reinstate the novice contests? I think that is crucial to site growth. But personally, I think I would have a tougher set of criteria to advance into the A+ ranks. For instance, to advance out of the novice bracket you have to attain 2 or 3 gold medals in separate, basic chopping disciplines. i.e.; Out of bounds, Face swap and blending, coloring or recoloring, multiple masking and layering... that sort of thing. I figure there would be a set pattern, revolving contest, all based on the above emphasis every week.


I hope I made that clear enough
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Gummy
Republicans
5/6/2017 7:41:38 AM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 5/5/2017 10:36:46 PM, Hitspinner said:


It could be:
1 5$ Gold
2 4$ Silver
3 3$ Bronze
4 2$ Wood
5 1$ Stone




Agreed. A 5th place recognition would be nice, Most of us already recognize 5th place in our post contest comments.
Edit:
And of course we should remain equal opportunity offenders, Just say NO to Political Correctness. We are here to have fun, so a nice loose, easy going approach to things. Also the weekly Freak Show and the News Contests are a must have.





[Edited by User on 5/7/2017 11:10:48 AM]
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Hitspinner
Independents
5/7/2017 1:59:22 PM


Status: Commander in Chief

On 5/6/2017 7:41:38 AM, Gummy said:

On 5/5/2017 10:36:46 PM, Hitspinner said:


It could be:
1 5$ Gold
2 4$ Silver
3 3$ Bronze
4 2$ Wood
5 1$ Stone




Agreed. A 5th place recognition would be nice, Most of us already recognize 5th place in our post contest comments.
Edit:
And of course we should remain equal opportunity offenders, Just say NO to Political Correctness. We are here to have fun, so a nice loose, easy going approach to things. Also the weekly Freak Show and the News Contests are a must have.





[Edited by User on 5/7/2017 11:10:48 AM]



The "Weekly News" contest goes without saying and I am for sure on board with Freak Show!

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news1st
Independents
5/8/2017 10:09:24 PM
Status: Commander in Chief
Dear Sir!

I would like 1 Penny-Per-View.

If I got 1 Per View of My Artwork, I would have made $700,000 Dollars by now.

70 Million Views must be worth something?

Thank You!
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SplatShot
Independents
5/8/2017 10:25:58 PM


Status: Commander in Chief
I'm in for the 5th place recognition too. A cheap plastic trophy with no money. Works for me.
Comments are big in my book, Freakmaster! Regardless of the money, and virtual trophies. Without "comments" it feels like I'm throwing my hard work down a black whole.
I'd like to see the Apprentice Contest revived, and I have to plug my vote in for the Freak Show contest as well. After All, we do identify ourselves as Freakers.
I'd also love to see the contest flooded with voters. Does anyone here have a motivational idea or two?

Welcome Aboard, FreakMaster!

[Edited by User on 5/8/2017 10:26:59 PM]
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