Seagull at Ground Zero
Seagull at Ground Zero
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      • Not the same bird, unless you've got a program that turns 2D into 3D ... where can I get the software.
      • The same bird is there, just not the focus of the chop. I had a little more important focus in mind. Since you pointed out you couldn't see the source I made it a bit more evident through the haze. I expect there are such programs but it is probably cheaper just to find the right bird source or illustrate your own. Birds are fun to create from scratch and fairly easy. Thanks for the heads up
      • This is very thought provoking, interesting (and deep)emotions. Thank you.
      • And thank you for not turning away. It is a hard subject to confront not just for Americans but all of us. It is not a chop to be applauded, but it is a chop to be respected, IMO. Since there was no contest in rememberance of 911, I decided to force the point, and fit at least one voice in this contest that speaks for the fallen. Sorry if it might offends some, but my head came out of the sand on Sept 11, 2001.
      • Okay, I am one of those that yesterday when I first saw this, I thought the source photo was not being used and I 'walked' away from it without looking at it too deeply. Today being 911.... now I realize what this picture is all about. I did not add 2 plus 2 to get 911, hidden. On TV right now they are discussing 35 years ago today in Charlotte there was an Eastern plane crash that killed 79 people. In those days, accidents were accidents. Thank you for making this memorial to those who were innocently killed today.
      • That is a beautiful word, Arno. Thanks, I will never loose it. Doxi, you astound me; you made an excellent point and I can't believe I made a composition that did not reflect the 911 connection totally evident. However there is a reason, and that is the overwhelming nature of the pile, that apparently still affects me to this day. I'll quote from something I wrote back in 2001 that pretty much sums up how I view Ground Zero and probably why this composition was so condensed. Maybe myopic is a better word. -The Pile- "We were simply machines, unrelenting automatons that pushed on and on until our biological sensors indicated some imminent internal failure. We kept our personal universes simple and small. To try and absorb the entirety of the devastation would have brought us to our knees. Others unable to maintain this internal failsafe and who did manage to take it all in, subsequently had to leave. They didnít see anything but the depths of their own limitations, their uselessness and the desperation within their own minds. Those of us that stayed to help were able to focus in the present. You imposed self-limiting parameters to your personal universe like one puts blinders on a horse. Otherwise you were gone, really gone. That is how we survived Ground Zero." Interesting, huh.
      • Hidden: Interesting. Yes. Who wrote it.. Yes, as obvious as it is to you what this composition is all about, it wasn't to me. And by using another gull as your focal point, not one that is in the source photo, it muddied the waters. Full view is a must....a step I also have to admit I did not take yesterday.
      • I wrote it. It is from a semi fictionalized account of my experience as a volunteer firefighter at the World Trade Center. That aside, thanks for the comments and some very good points made. Next one I will be a little more clear
      • Thoughtful chop. I just wish it used the seagull from the source in the central composition, since this is the "source" contest.
      • True Vlad. But it did not fit compositionally. I had started this chop in expectation that you would have a 911 Memorial contest. When it was evident that wasn't going to happen I switched to plan B and worked the segull suggestion into the chop. It wasn't meant as a spoiler, you know that. But it was meant as a reminder, I'n pretty passionate about this date in history. Anyway, it's all good. I got a chance to scream Thanks. And thanks for the comments and votes. It did better than I expected so maybe we haven't forgotten
      • Powerful from a man of few words on this day of remembrance. Freedom is not Free. Let's Roll
      • Brought tears to my eyes, this one and it's comments did. I remember waking up one Sunday morning, turning on the news channel, seeing the second plane hit ... my fingers won't type anymore.........
      • Yep. I hear you. Tomorrow I chop happy things.
      • hitSpinner ... I really surprised about this one ... it's must get high score ,really great work , keep up top chops teacher
      • Great work Hit... Really touching piece...
      • Very powerful chop.Very moving. We must never forget 9/11, I know I won't. Someone I knew from making deliveries to was on FLT 93...The plane filled with heros who fought back, saving countless others. Lets roll.
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